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Hey drut, do you want a definite answer to your suspicions? Start making correlations between the Empathy forums and reactorbreach. I have found that it took reactorbreach just a mere moment to obliterate the real threat AKA Merit. Whereas Pallascat, maxine, karutzar, donquixote et al. have their account intact at reactorbreach What sorcery is this? Not sorcery. Just a bait n switch tactic caught red-handed in the execution phase
Post by Biff on May 29, 2015 6:53:53 GMT
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So is Merit able to post on the empathy-way forum? He says he can't post here for some reason.
Post by Drut on May 29, 2015 7:11:18 GMT
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By the way my LIDA machine thread and Jim Stone FAQ are up so it seems they're not into censorship which is good.
Post by Drut on May 29, 2015 7:25:27 GMT
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It's pretty annoying how much users and content they were able to get but I guess that's the upside of doing the whole send everyone pms containing your personal info, you know networking, socialising.
The whole flat earth thing - like I kinda regret the dino thread on this forum. I think nomatter what good info on the flat earth forum gets posted, sheeple will be dismissive of it because flat earth = stupid in their mind. But Karutzar seems cool and if he can keep the forum censorship free, I'm sure that eventually they'll get how the flat earth thing is bogus. Like people on average are smart, that's why censorship is needed to maintain a lie, because otherwise the forum hive mind will lock on to the right answer eventually.
I don't really get what you mean by bait and switch biff can you explain.
Post by Drut on May 29, 2015 7:39:28 GMT
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I havent been able to find Merit on any forum out there so him showing up anytime soon is very improbable. What I meant by bait and switch is that since the reputation of reactorbreach is now tainted, they need a plan B to keep fishing in (or dox) intelligent members that pose any threat to the mighty shadow people. During the run of reactorbreach a couple of high profile members went missing (john carter, that guy from Australia, holisticman, farganne etc), so they want to make sure they keep the nabbings coming. Ofcourse this all is only my opinion. And I am sticking with it. I would like people to show up here instead. Why? Because you were kicked out violently from reactorbreach. Your account was dismissed. You were called a turd. To top it off, donquixote WAS the one at the centerstage of your ousting (remember?). So this forum seems like a more desirable place
Post by Biff on May 29, 2015 21:17:25 GMT
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I would like people to show up here instead. One of the problems is human psychology. You work at a law firm and so you have that hierarchy in your life. You don't feel the need to be a moderator, or to have some moderator asspat you. But most truthers from what I guess aren't successful in that way, otherwise they would have better analysis skills. They have an emotional need to have online friends and such and that's what DQ and Maxine cater for with their Don Quixote narrative/motherhen persona. If you're an analyst you know that the easy answer can be the wrong one. But these guys aren't. It's easier to believe Jim Stone was replaced rather than a liar THE WHOLE TIME because then you don't feel like a dope. It's easier to pretend Pallascat wasn't phishing for information because that makes you feel unsafe. It's easier to pretend that the forum melt down happened because of the "flat earth conspiracy being suppressed by Bnai Brith" than it was because of chronic problems with the Reactor Breach forum and site. People take the easy answer. I made a thread on the Fourth way and it basically says this was always true. A certain percentage of people are able to overcome psychological barriers to obtaining objective truth, but not all people. In reality that's what this forum will have to cater for, the few users who have analysis skills from doing certain kinds of university degrees and can't stand the idiocy of untrained minds. I made a thread on the CIA book that is used for analyst training hopefully that's a good start to develop that kind of culture which will attract those kinds of users. edit: and the biggest turn off for people who are uneducated is people who are smarter than them. They hate it. That's why you probably find your mindset is totally different from others, you take the "equality" mantra for granted and don't realise how different other people think from you as a result of your education/genes/upbringing. If Don Quixote or Maxine were smart they would have set up the forum themselves, but instead they needed someone else to do it for them (Karutzar, who has military training if I'm correct and so is educated). While you might say their reluctance to set up a forum was because they hoped reactorbreach would be reestablished after the scandal blew over, I honestly think a mind controlled losers make far better shills than real shills and you are mistaking incompetence for malevolent genius. But yeah guys if you don't have military training (I don't) or analysis training (such as legal degree, engineering degree, commerce degree etc. ie. not Humanities degree) then just read the CIA book. It's not that hard to become educated. Probably a month's work tops.
Post by Drut on May 30, 2015 1:39:04 GMT
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By the way guys I made a few posts over on the empathy forum so don't feel like if you like this forum you can't post there too. I guess I could have made Karutzar a moderator here instead of him making his own forum, so I'm sorry if you feel I didn't capitalize on the melt down, but I think in the end it's best this way. People know about this forum from there, so if they get banned or anything they can post about it here. So this forum still serves a function (even if it's only me an Biff posting) because it guarantees transparency on the empathy forum.
Post by Drut on May 30, 2015 1:43:25 GMT
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If I understood your logic correctly then I assume you want this forum to act like a parallel dimension to the Empathy one? That would be a good move. My only fear is getting hitched onto a lure. Some of the ex-reactorbreachers are total geniuses. I dont really care which forum they join or post to, but it's in the best interest of our community they they are careful of who they open up to.
Post by Biff on May 30, 2015 2:06:39 GMT
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My only fear is getting hitched onto a lure. Basically don't talk to anyone via PM. Just firewall man. I totally didn't read DQ's PM to me, hence it couldn't affect me. If you're not willing to say something in public don't say it at all. Assume everyone you're talking to is a shill. Yeah Pallascat is either smart (not in the common sense way) or a spook. I doubt any of them are geniuses. You had a few educated people, and that's great, like the doctor who talked about the K trial they did for ADHD. But the whole genius shit has been imprinted on you via Don Quixote's incessant asspatting of people who now believe the earth is flat.Basically I have contempt for this ideal of being supersmart because I've been on this gangstalking shit where they put you on a hive mind. More brains = more computing power = higher IQ. And I have fucking total contempt for the situation and am glad I'm off that part of the torture program (not sure how that happened). We're looking for "not dumb" rather than smart yeah? Education in certain degrees (because some unis offer shit courses that are total BS - I mean even Physics degrees teach BS such as SR but at least you get decent analysis skills) is what we're aiming for. I'll accept if someone claims to be a genius and has something to show for it like Steve Jobs, or an engineer with a successful patent, etc. Remember Jim Stone was smart - electrician, published author and claims to be MIT graduate yet he was still full of shit.
Post by Drut on May 30, 2015 2:19:49 GMT
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parallel dimension to the Empathy one? Yeah a parallel dimension where the earth is round. Funnily enough I once had a online stalker who also was into Bnai Brith based on his post history but it was over me saying the races aren't equal (PS. they aren't, some of us are Neanderthals clearly. I wouldn't be surprised if humans were engineered, and by different groups for different purposes).
Post by Drut on May 30, 2015 2:23:44 GMT
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What was the link again for the 4chan thread drut?
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Post by ItsaSlowDay on Jun 10, 2015 15:26:20 GMT
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420chan threads have been pruned due to age. But they're still available without pics as cached pages: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:amc3Plq1AbwJ:boards.420chan.org/tinfoil/res/70801.php+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=ubuntuAnyway I kinda like the empathy forum, there doesn't seem to be moderation like you can disagree with the flat earth stuff and not get banned. There seems to be a number of users there with ringing in their ears and that's really disconcerting like joining Reactor Breach increases the chance you will be gangstalked? Some shills there like one guy who via pm insisted that I tell him who I was to build trust before he would give me info which I asked for (self help info). Definitely phishing and creepy. Karutzar seems cool but the problem I see is if the group hug type users would create a break away forum if Karutzar fucks up somehow like causes a dispute with a mod. Anyway whatever happens happens drama is a waste of time.
Post by Drut on Jun 28, 2015 22:50:53 GMT
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Btw guys I totally have gotten sucked in to the drama check out this page: empathy-way.freeforums.net/thread/38/jim-stone-goes-disinfo?page=8Don Quixote tried deleting Karutzar as admin on the second day. Could it get any more obvious? So yeah I think the hug boxers will try to pull their coup. Wonder if they'll go on a deleting spree and if the posts can be undeleted? PS. Biff, you know that Excel spreadsheet with personal info, can you email me the info just on drut, thanks! edit: removed email Also include in the info if I am able to share what is on there on this forum (or if you don't want that because of your agreement with pallascat). And it's cool if u don't want to. The idea is because I don't share info via PM and Pallascat claims he had notes on drut, then we could tell if he is getting info off say a NSA database.
Post by Drut on Jun 30, 2015 9:49:29 GMT
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The Drama disappeared, moved to some section users can't see.
Basically DQ got called out as being a shill and there was pretty good evidence of this, such as DQ tried removing Karutzar from admin privileges (I assume because Karutzar is founder he was able to change it back).
Shills don't act alone and they get their shill buddies to say "omg this negativety is bad" and try to guilt trip you. So Karutzar has hidden all the evidence and now DQ can spin the whole affair.
Anyway drama is over.
Post by Drut on Jun 30, 2015 19:58:30 GMT
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Drut my friend!Freeforums been evil to me lately.timeout during postings,sporadic requests for registering and worse.....it wont let me access empathy way anymore.I havent interacted with pcat lately.i know hes back.i just retired from it all.I'm just a paralegal and work has been stressful during the summer.I dont remember going into details about the pcat file but rest assured he considers you and two other people "clowns".I doubt he wants anything to do with you.I also forgot to mention how he found a bunch of us.We met on one of those " chan" websites.Drut,also i was there when donquixote was exposed by karutzar.That whole drama had nothing to do with pcat so I will post everything i have on it.do you want the evidence?
Post by biff on Jul 1, 2015 15:16:09 GMT
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I've sent you the evidence pertaining to donquixote/karutzar spat at the email you provided.please check spam folders and other places for it to magically appear lol.
Post by biff on Jul 1, 2015 16:38:41 GMT
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I dont remember going into details about the pcat file but rest assured he considers you and two other people "clowns" lol I just wanted to see since I know how much info I give out via pm (basically none) and I could see if he was using NSA type info. Meh it's not important and yeah I'm not spooked by him. Yeah got the Donquixote email thanks for sending that. The number of pageviews for guests seems down for empathy way I guess the exodus is happening. They keep saying "OMG the atmosphere is bad we need more hugs! Save DonQUixote now!" But whatevs at the end of the day number of guests/users doesn't matter but how much useful stuff can be generated. Speaking of which Adobe Illustrator CS2 is legal and free (because Adobe didn't want to maintain the licensing system for that version) so all truthers could be using that free software to produce infographics. That sucks Biff that Proboards is being a pain I think Merit can't access the forum at all.
Post by Drut on Jul 1, 2015 22:36:52 GMT
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Also, a lot of things are going unnoticed.Last post I read before the Empathy way went registed user only was a slight altercation between maxine and karutzar.Maxine yet again showed her unrelenting loyalty towards donquixote but this time by quitting the forum citing the ill willed dismissal of donquixote from mod status.karutzar replied by telling maxine that he knew donquixote and she are in a lesbian relationship and just like so he also hinted the forum patrons as to the true gender of donquixote.You know what,drut? The forum has been turned registered user only so as to keep google from crawling on intimate yet spicey details about the real donquixote and maxine.I am willing to bet money on this!
Post by biff on Jul 2, 2015 6:12:50 GMT
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Heh I don't think Maxine and DQ are both lesbians but Karutzar claimed he had info on DQ that she was a woman, and because DQ claims in the JS thread over that "I had a wife" that means DQ is lesbian.
I think Karutzar was joking about Maxine being a lesbian because she is friends with DQ.
Yeah they did turn it to no guests. Maybe you're right about the bot crawling thing.
Anyway it's all there to distract us from important shit. I wonder if CIA dudes when they create their predev personas build layers into them and chuckle about it as they do it. "muhahahah he claims he's from Kazahkstan but later we'll reveal he's a professor from Oxford and then later we'll reveal it was his dog typing all along!"
Post by Drut on Jul 2, 2015 7:50:05 GMT
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Honestly I think DQ just made that shit up about being able to see 100 miles away without any "hull below". I thought before he was maybe confused identifying islands but I think he just makes it up. Same with Jim Stone, he sees something that looks a bit like a reactor and makes up that a Chemical engineer told him it was a reactor.
Post by Drut on Jul 2, 2015 7:53:22 GMT
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Here's the forum for DQ and his pals: anti-globe.boards.net/He makes statements like empathy way will implode and so forth. Like I said, exodus type thing. There's this slide in the GCHQ info on manipulating forums and exploiting tensions. IF Karutzar had've left Jim Stone thread open and Don Quixote posts up and his explanation for banning him, it'd be better. But you know other mods say "omg we gotta do this behind closed doors my bad emotions" so he goes with their advice and fucks it up. Second mistake he made was he accepted the claim made by someone to him via pm that DQ was a woman. Interesting DQ doesn't actually say "I'm a dude" but says "Karutzar the crazy psychopath says I must be a woman". Giving herself some wiggle room maybe? Or was the woman PM a trap for Karutzar?
Post by Drut on Jul 2, 2015 8:11:54 GMT
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Don Quixote insists the reason why the Sun disappears is because of perspective. ie. not because it sinks below the horizon of the globe or "flat plane earth", but it appears to get smaller and smaller as it moves away until it's distance is so great the light can't reach us.
Jesus fucking christ.
You can't be that stupid. It has to be an act right?
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Post by Drut on Jul 2, 2015 8:23:07 GMT
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Don Quixote has his own forum now: flatearthtruth.freeforums.net/thread/2/empathy-psychopathy-psycho-reversal-meaninglol Psychopath has a clear meaning. Lacks empathy and is good at manipulating people. Karutzar isn't good at manipulating people he posts shitty jokes like "plastinated sticks" that no one even gets. I don't see how he has displayed a lack of empathy any moreso than say DonQuixote, who repeatedly deleted my posts on ReactorBreach. But DQ changes the meaning of Psychopath to "someone I don't like" and by virtue of this, tries to make himself look good. If anyone is a Psychopath it's Don, who uses his/her persona to manipulate people. Does anyone else do what Don does? I mean if I started posting as "Michelangelo" the turtle and started saying "you can be donatello man" would you think I was manipulating you, or just lost my mind? So yeah twisting the meaning of a Psychopath, and then claiming others are twisting the meaning? The old "accuse your opponent of doing what you are doing first" that way if they complain about what you are doing it sounds like a weak comeback: "no you" PS. I'm not a Psychopath probably worse, MK Ultra'd so my empathy seems to go on and off. IF you want to understand it read this Government document: www.stopthecrime.net/COMM%2012%20BRIEFING001%20(1).pdfPsychopaths can't read your mind and control your thoughts, but MK Ultra victims, via the CIA using their mind control tech, actually can. The CIA can jack into peoples heads and make them say random things to the target to put the target on edge. When people in real life get uncharacteristically angry with me for no apparent reason, or say things that are bizarre and in a different tone of voice, I wonder if they are like puppets on a string. Could the CIA manipulate your dreams to make you fall in love with a targeted individual? Psychopaths are just good old fashion exploitative people. They're not going to go postal on you. It's the psychopathic hive mind (I speaking literally here) of the CIA that should most concern you. Speaking of which gotta buy Kingsman. Bought Shutter Island and it was good (MK Ultra in an overt way as opposed to movies like Fight Club)
Post by Drut on Jul 3, 2015 3:12:23 GMT
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Hey drut, do you want a definite answer to your suspicions? Start making correlations between the Empathy forums and reactorbreach. I have found that it took reactorbreach just a mere moment to obliterate the real threat AKA Merit. Whereas Pallascat, maxine, karutzar, donquixote et al. have their account intact at reactorbreach I notice on Reactorbreach Maxine is posting there. And DonQuixote noticed he is still a mod there. (http://flatearthtruth.freeforums.net/thread/11/don-quixote-acused) Pallascat is posting there, for example, the "cure" for insomnia. Insomnia can be caused via Microwave weapons if you are a targetted individual, and the "cure" Pallascat proposes also works for them according to some. I have to check it out some time. So looks like it was damage control all along. Now that Karutzar booted them they can go back to Reactorbreach. No way Pallascat could not be a shill I mean Jim Stone's history of BS has been stickied on empathy way.
Post by Drut on Jul 3, 2015 10:42:01 GMT
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This was a very stupid move by donquixote and maxine.Their actions are actually telling us that they are minions of jim's.I dont know what is this one thing thats making them go haywire from forum to forum.Whatever it is,I think its big and it has something to do with future events.They are probably trying to discredit warriors of truth before hand.
Post by biff on Jul 4, 2015 0:55:15 GMT
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This was a very stupid move by donquixote and maxine. In hindsight yes. But it was forced on them because Karutzar took action based on IP shit related to Don Quixote, and at the time I thought it was going to be a successful power play. It's hard to gauge people online but Karutzar reminds me of my old history teacher - a sly old fox. See the movie "Drunk Master"? That thing - "it's by appearing to lose that you succeed". One of those people you underestimate easily and has aces up his sleeve. I think Karutzar appears honest and outplayed the shills. That being said flat earth is dumb and I think the agenda is to make truthers appear stupid. I remember when Sean was banned - the next day someone (don't remember who) have post a snapshots of the forum thread with the "polite" discussion btwn JD and Sean, where Sean clearly said to JD that he was a frontmen, a stooge for an agenda that doesn't serve the truth fighters at all, but to twist it to laughingstock. Do somebody remember? I do. I am still sorry I didn't dl the snapshots. To say that Jim Stone is "angel" is at least naive. I don't see naive people here on this forum. I repeat - if is not naivety is Agenda. Naivety is not. ... empathy-way.freeforums.net/thread/38/jim-stone-goes-disinfo?page=7Pretty lol comment on Maxine and DQ: Stoner eloquence. I gotta use that phrase some time.
Post by Drut on Jul 4, 2015 2:39:12 GMT
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I owe karutzar an apology. If you remember not very long ago I suspected him of shillage.Apart from that that was an awesome post drut! I actually stopped by to post a unique finding but you really brightened my day.I saw another reactorbreach member being mentioned on that new offshoot forum.Her name is bim and she is LiA on reactorbreach. She posted her age group and I was able to get a hit. She is a highly skilled computer person and is a...wait for it...government contractor.How about you look around if I got the right person. Her name is Doris O. Bim of DBKB technologies llc. Her company makes $5 mil in revenue.Heres the source. www.fedmine.us/userDownloadedfiles/Contractor_DUNS_008213162-DBKBTECHNOLOGIES,LLC-copyright_FEDMINE_211319.html
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How about you look around if I got the right person. Dude I'm a noob at this stuff the only ip plugin I got on this forum you can only check ip's real time if someone doesn't post then I don't have their ip logged. But I'll pm the info to Karutzar maybe he understands what the info means and stuff. Why would someone that capable waste their time around losers like Don Quixote/Jim Stone? I guess if she's a shill and she's making that kind of money then covering up the truth must be real important. Or RB was a nest of gangstalked individuals. Gangstalking is a ridiculously expensive thing to do, eg. if a target moves they buy houses near the target. They have a big budget for that.
Post by Drut on Jul 4, 2015 4:46:27 GMT
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